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Alders heard from suburban Oak Brook police about potential crime fighting technology. The meeting came just days after Mayor Brandon Johnson sunsetted the gunshot detection technology ShotSpotter in Chicago.

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09:58 AM Sep 30, 2024 CDT

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The meeting has been called to order.
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Michael [missed last name], public commenter: "I'm really not for the ShotSpotter, but the same time, it's incompetent to have nothing to replace it."
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He also criticized the alderpeople for a lack of in-person outreach outside of election season. "We need people on the doorsteps." He also said an increase in police patrols for non-emergency situations is needed.
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George Blakemore, public commenter: Committee meetings are a "pony show" because multiple are occurring at the same time so it's impossible to attend them all. He said "this is a broken system" and dared the alderpeople to throw him out. "It's evil. It's corrupt. All of you."
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Zoe Lee, public commenter: "You're not going to be able to push a socialist agenda in a capitalist society. The issue is the 'defund the police movement," which Lee said was connected to the "Hispanic KKK" who "didn't want police to do their job and arrest criminals."
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Lee's concerns about 'defund the police' are likely in response to the end of the city's contract with ShotSpotter. blockclubchicago.org/2024/09/23/as-…
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Jessica Jackson, public commenter: "As the head is, there goes the body. We have a corrupt, vindictive, and retaliatory head in the form of Mayor Brandon Johnson. He dictates what everybody does."
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The public comment section has concluded.
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Sergeant Jason Wood from the Oakbrook Police Department will present on StarChase, which is a "pursuit mitigation tool" that shoots GPS-tagged darts to track suspects' locations.
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StarChase can be used when car chases would be unsafe or aren't permitted, Wood said. The Oakbrook Police Department has been using it for "a few years."
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"It's not cheap, but it's a lot cheaper than a possible lawsuit."
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The tags can be removed manually, Wood said, but the police department has had an "85-90% success rate when a tag is actually affixed"—it's rare for suspects to pull a tag off mid-chase.
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The short battery life of the tags (about 8 hours) avoids legal issues associated with long-term location tracking, Wood said.
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Alderperson Anthony Napolitano: "Really important technology." Can you share location tracking ability with agencies in surrounding municipalities? Wood: Yes.
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Vice Mayor Walter Burnett Jr.: "This is a fantastic product. The only thing that concerns me is, can you be accused of racial profiling with it?" Wood: "You can always be accused of that...We're able to covert follow cars and then follow without them realizing we're there."
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There are both vehicle-mounted and handheld versions of the launcher that releases the GPS-tagged devices.
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Wood: we use this technology on almost a weekly basis.
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Wood, in response to a question from Alderperson Desmon Yancy: StarChase has not been challenged in court in Illinois.
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Wood: Police officers attempt to recover used tags based on last location, but they do not recover and reuse all of them.
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In response to a question about uses in cases where a crime was not committed: "fleeing from a police car constitutes the conditions for using StarChase," but if the car stops voluntarily, "no harm, no foul."
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Alderperson Peter Chico: Oakbrook uses this tool primarily at one centralized location (the Oakbrook Shopping Center). Chicago would have a very different approach.
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Chico: How often do accidents happen? Wood: We've had zero collisions while using StarChase.
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Alderperson Jessica Fuentes: has StarChase caused any property damage? Wood: "You're not going to deploy this on a person ever." Under some circumstances, it can cause damage comparable to a golf ball.
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Sergeant Mark Spinrosa [unsure of name spelling]: Drones are "the future of law enforcement," due to the low costs and "essentially unlimited benefits" such as speed, safety of officers, and increased knowledge provided to the police department.
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Drones decrease use of force incidents, Spinrosa said. They're most commonly used for terrorism threats, missing persons cases, 911 calls, and special events (such as the DNC).
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CPD currently has 3 licensed drone pilots.
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Many Lollapalooza attendees called to notify the police of people on rooftops, and police monitored them with drones.
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Spinrosa attributed the 50% decrease in use of force incidents associated with drones to "increased situational awareness" and fewer perception-based mistakes (such as mistaking harmless objects for weapons).
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"We have 5 drones. We're proud of those drones," but other cities have more drones (e.g. NYC has 55), so "we're a bit behind the curve," Spinrosa said.
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He expects drones to help with recruitment because people will think being hired as a drone pilot is "exciting."
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Spinrosa: Drone battery lasts 30 min. Drones are functional in cold weather, heavy wind, and light rain.
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The cameras are "the best available," with thermal and magnification abilities.
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NYPD uses drones to spot distressed swimmers, Spinrosa said. "The possibilities of that really excite me."
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The police department is hoping to increase the number of drone-operating officers from 3 to 12.
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The drone segment of the police department is "bootstrapped," Spinrosa said. They're hoping to increase funding next budget season.
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In response to a question about tracking: "We take concerns very seriously. We would not want to violate anybody's rights. We only use drones in public settings where there's no expectation of property," Spinrosa said.
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The alderperson (who is not visible on-screen) repeated their question. Spinrosa: "We do not retain video unless a crime was committed. Then, we're required to notify the state attorney's office."
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The meeting is adjourned.